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Reality Info Forums: Recent Posts http://realityinfo.org/forum/ Meet Your World en Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:29:58 +0000 chased702 on "Different paths to the same goal?" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=16#post-21 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:14:41 +0000 chased702 21@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ Hey guys, I was just told about this site/forum from a buddy in the New Z-Land Project and thought I'd give it a look over. I was wondering how similar some of these views are to what they and our group (Atlasinitiativegroup.org) does in a resource based economy view. It seems like we all want change in most aspects of our life and just going about achieving this in different ways. If you want to hear more about what we are trying to do I suggest checking out our forum sometimes. We also have meetings that can be joined online, podcasts and other forms of media that you can get a wealth of knowledge about. Jomabe on "An end to religious intolerance" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=11#post-20 Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:32:58 +0000 Jomabe 20@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ Instead of an end to religious intolerance/irrationality, I propose the spread of scientific objectivity/pragmatism. That way you're not approaching the issue from the negative (or the removal of something) but instead from the positive (or the promotion of science which will in turn bring a transformation of the religious mind to a philosophical one). Liam Swords on "The Story Of Stuff" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=15#post-19 Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:37:47 +0000 Liam Swords 19@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ This website reminds me of this short film that I watched here <a href="http://www.storyofstuff.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.storyofstuff.com/</a> very good site btw. shell on "selfish thats me" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=14#post-18 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:08:45 +0000 shell 18@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ i have spent my adult life thinking of others fists, well no more think its time for me to be selfish and sod ever one else. cuz putting other first never did me any good. chingu on "Karl Popper's Three Worlds Thesis" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=13#post-17 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:28:29 +0000 chingu 17@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ What do You interpret "a Universe" to mean from The Talmud quote? Anduril on "Karl Popper's Three Worlds Thesis" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=13#post-16 Sat, 23 May 2009 19:46:18 +0000 Anduril 16@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ _WorldS_ ... Karl Popper's writings describe three worlds: World 1 -- the world of objective physical reality -- matter, vector forces, space, time World 2 -- the world of subjective personal experience -- perception, cognition, dreams, creativity. World 3 -- the world of externalized Objective Knowledge -- theories, methodologies, arts, facts I might want to add a further world -- World 4 -- the spiritual dimension of life "When a person dies, a Universe dies with them..." (The Talmud) Tony Hollick nacnud on "An end to religious intolerance" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=11#post-15 Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:01:08 +0000 nacnud 15@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ I am of the opinion that I don't care if people worship sauce bottles as long as they realise that the get all of their material, and hence life giving, commodities from the collection of humanity on this planet. And as long as people are giving to that, to receive from it, then let them worship sauce bottles, gods, fish, cats, mice. I care not. When one realises that ones best hope of survival is tied up in maximising the productivity and living conditions over every human on the planet, then one will gladly join in; unless they are being suicidal. { And those are few and far between } Thank you for your insights, and I think I agree with you <blockquote>though I think leaving mention of religion out altogether may be the sensible option! </blockquote> Peace. Dunk Cat on "Evil?" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=10#post-14 Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:17:11 +0000 Cat 14@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ Hi qlite and welcome! I think you may be misunderstanding the page...the common objection is that this is socialism (which it's not) or this is communism (which it's not) and that these two concepts are evil. We are not saying that socialism and communism are evil. We are using it as a common misconception. We haven't labelled it...and you're right of course that the notion of good/evil is not rational which is why we've used it to demonstrate the common objection! :) Hope that clears that up. Peace Cat qlite on "Hi" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=12#post-13 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:29:08 +0000 qlite 13@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ As the topic title says, and may I be the first to say it! A lot of good sense on your site, I've commented on the two bits that struck me as things I disagreed with, the rest, at first reading, seems to be the basis of a good philosophy for life... I look forward to some interesting discussions. hopefully with a few more people! (I found this place through a link on a commentisfree post, by the way). qlite on "An end to religious intolerance" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=11#post-12 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:12:54 +0000 qlite 12@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ Unfortunately religions by definition (at least those requiring belief in a single god) are intolerant (of other religions). There is no way around that whatsoever. "An end to religious irrationality" may be a better concept to promote, though I think leaving mention of religion out altogether may be the sensible option! In this day and age there is no rational or logical reason to be religious, in the sense of worshipping a god who a) had any involvement in the creation of the earth (or anything) or b) requires followers of other religions to be killed/converted/pitied/despised/insert as appropriate. Spiritual beliefs are another matter, but you can't end religious intolerance without ending religion, and that goal, desirable as it may be, would seem to be overstretching yourselves a touch! qlite on "Evil?" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=10#post-11 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:00:06 +0000 qlite 11@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ A few thoughts.... With a set of values including "tolerance", "understanding" and "education", to bluntly describe something as "evil" seems a little hypocritical. I'd go so far as to say there can be no justification. The concept of evil implies a division (of whatever) into good and evil - who decides which is what? Who decided communism and socialism were evil? <blockquote>States which claim or have claimed to be socialist or communist have secrecy, death squads,...</blockquote> Exactly. Given many would argue a true communist or socialist state has yet to be formed, how can you use evidence from those who merely "claim to be" as evidence against? The notion of good/evil is not rational, and rationality, even if not explicitly stated, appears to be central to your ethos. Cat on "Competition...but not as we know it." http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=6#post-7 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:30:44 +0000 Cat 7@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ This is a blue sky thinking idea...All input more than welcome... People often ask me; "So what do we do about this?" I then tell them, normally, that they have to follow the advice of the website and go out and tell 10 people. That to me, education, is one of the central ways that we, as humans, can free ourselves from this system which is, after all, of our own making. We choose this, so we can choose another way. Anyway, for some people that is not enough. So, as a "first step", if you want to aim for something other than education how about this: Get every business to open up all of its documents to anyone that wants to see them. Whether they be businesses in antagonistic competition with them, or any individual. "Competition" [for profit still??] then, as it were, would be to see who had the best "information" gathering skills and who could bring a product to market quickest. If Glaxo wanted to know what ICI was up to, they�d only have to ask. So they could, in theory, combine their half of the solution with the ICI half of the solution and produce a new product. If ICI did not undertake the task of looking at Glaxo�s documents and research, then they would be "behind the game". In this way, humans, you, me, your mum, your loved ones, would all benefit. And one of the scourges of humanity, antagonistic competition, would have the edge taken off of it and the productive forces could get moving again. Of course, the "class action", of actually asking gov�s to make this law would need people to be educated as to the initial underlying problems. And just think of all those products out there, waiting to be produced to benefit you. How would it change the face of this current "down turn" in profits? Any comments? Cheers, Dunk Cat on "Climate Change" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=5#post-6 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:28:16 +0000 Cat 6@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ There can be no doubt that climate change will continue to dominate the world stage for the foreseeable future and whether or not you believe what we�re told about melting ice caps, rising sea levels, devastation of habitats that sustain elements of the food chain it�s clear that much can be done to reduce the impact of humans on the planet. However of course it is not profitable. Which means what? It means that while we are being held over a barrel (of oil) by the governments and oil producers no real effort is being put into finding sustainable alternative ways of generating electricity for light and heat because it won�t generate enough or as much profit. And not for one minute am I saying we need to reduce the amount that we use � hell no! It�s just possible that we can heat and light the whole world for all the humans in it by harnessing the energy from the sun and the oceans. Solar energy is being used in many forms around the world but we haven�t begun to scratch the surface of its full potential. It�s the same for water and wind power. Imagine - we can have a sustainable electricity supply where no human is without the necessary heat they need to survive. Where the energy is available to run hospitals and homes alike in the poorest countries and the farthest corners of the globe. This is possible. It is within our grasp. We need to open our minds to the possibilities that already exist and take the thought processes a bit further. Check out <a href="http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2583" rel="nofollow">http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2583</a> Cat on "We've no more space....Humans are bad!" http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=4#post-5 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:04:20 +0000 Cat 5@http://realityinfo.org/forum/ I often have it put to me that this planet can not sustain human life much beyond the current "capacity" that we have just now and as such the best thing that could happen to the human race would be for half of us to disappear in some fashion. I�m not sure if the people that champion this idea actually want to be part of the half that goes, or not. Either way the argument is totally ludicrous if you step out with the current paradigm and the current system, capitalism. Right now we know, for a fact, that all of our resources, such as they are, are geared up to playing the game that is "profit creation". From the keyboard I type this email on to the remote servers that it finally sits on. From your carpet to your car. From your kitchen to your bedroom. From your garden furniture to your latest computer gadgets. All of the resources we have available to us, as human, are currently focused on the profit motive. That is the commodity based system under capitalism. That is the definition. If we were to focus on the needs of humans first and not the needs of "bankers", as such, then the resources could be applied in different ways. And not only could the current resources by re-assigned, new resources could be sucked into the system. Just look at all of the human labour that is currently left unused by capitalism; if this current system could use it, it would be using it. We know that. ( markets work ( as if ) ) "But wait Duncan, the resources just about go around as it is, what if we were to bring all of those hungry mouths in to the system too, instead of letting them starve as we are just now. We�d all suffer!" Total nonsense. Even on the food issue, that is total nonsense. We let humans live and grow in high tower blocks, why can�t we grow food in the same way? If people are too scared that fields are not working for us any more, then let us put plants in tower blocks. We know about mirrors, for light, pumps and pipes for water and we even know how to build tower blocks. Nothing is stopping us turning one square patch of land, the space for one field, into the space for 60 fields, if we like. It�ll never happen under this system, of course, as this system is focused on creating profit, as discussed, and not on creating the conditions that are favourable to human life. All right Duncan so say we are to get everyone in African involved and we go down that route, where are we getting the water; Africa is a dust bowl. Well, maybe it is just now, but we know about desalination and we know about pumps and we know about pipes so we are able to irrigate every inch of any land, and that would include any of our Food Towers�. If you just look at the wide open spaces that have been left alone by our species so far, they are vast. And I�m not talking about concreting them all over here; I�m talking about managing resources for the betterment of the human species and not for profit. So folks, drop the idea that there are not "enough resources" to satiate the demand of the current population let alone any future growth. That way of thinking just shows narrow minded stuck cognitive behaviour. By being on this site, and spreading the idea of human focused living and production I truly hope and believe that we are making a difference. Think beyond. Thank you for your efforts. 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